Unlock the secrets of a life intertwined with nature's wisdom through the insightful perspective of Emma Zeimer. This episode is a tapestry of discussions about the symbiosis of personal growth and environmental harmony. Emma's rich experience in construction and farming sheds light on how our natural instincts can lead to a more authentic and fulfilling existence, impacting everything from business success to deepening our relationships.
Venture with us as we traverse the interconnected landscape of energy flow, physical health, and environmental stewardship. Emma shares personal stories that reveal the transformative power of grounding, the potential pitfalls of our modern diet, and how addressing emotional traumas can release physical ailments. We also examine the role of natural materials and design in creating spaces that encourage a positive energy exchange, hinting at the profound potential for change when we align our lives with the principles of nature.
Concluding our journey, we reflect on the vital importance of nurturing our connection to the land—an avenue for both regenerating ecosystems and rediscovering innate human skills. Emma's vision of fostering opportunities for people to engage with nature and land ownership serves as a beacon for those seeking sustainable living and self-discovery. Join us as we embrace the challenges and growth that arise when we courageously realign with the world around us.
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Unlock the secrets of a life intertwined with nature's wisdom through the insightful perspective of Emma Zeimer. This episode is a tapestry of discussions about the symbiosis of personal growth and environmental harmony. Emma's rich experience in construction and farming sheds light on how our natural instincts can lead to a more authentic and fulfilling existence, impacting everything from business success to deepening our relationships.
Venture with us as we traverse the interconnected landscape of energy flow, physical health, and environmental stewardship. Emma shares personal stories that reveal the transformative power of grounding, the potential pitfalls of our modern diet, and how addressing emotional traumas can release physical ailments. We also examine the role of natural materials and design in creating spaces that encourage a positive energy exchange, hinting at the profound potential for change when we align our lives with the principles of nature.
Concluding our journey, we reflect on the vital importance of nurturing our connection to the land—an avenue for both regenerating ecosystems and rediscovering innate human skills. Emma's vision of fostering opportunities for people to engage with nature and land ownership serves as a beacon for those seeking sustainable living and self-discovery. Join us as we embrace the challenges and growth that arise when we courageously realign with the world around us.
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biodiversity is key in a healthy landscape. And well, you've got the freshwater lands, you've got biodiversity and you've got the ecosystem. An ecosystem cannot thrive without the animals that are killing something, cannot thrive without the weed that's growing in a spot and and it's all about. It's that full ecosystem. It's that full ecosystem. It's a full circle.
Speaker 2:G'day guys. Welcome back to another episode of Level Up. We are back in the shed this afternoon for another cracking episode. I want to give you a little bit of a background on how I met the lady that's sitting with me here today, because, yeah, we've definitely connected Only about a month ago, not even a month ago and I reached out and said, hey, I need to get you on my podcast. So, um, today we have a lady by the name of emma cyma um from camilla regen, which, uh, camilla means divine, or kamala region, um, kamala means divine, um, and we'll get into more of that as we talk. But basically, you would have heard me talk on this podcast plenty of times now how, as I've spent more time, money and energy on myself and self-improvement and just being more open-minded about things, how it's just incredible how things start falling into place and the opportunities you get and, probably most exciting, the people that you get to meet.
Speaker 2:Um, and how I met emma was, um, we've recently, in the last 12 months, um, been fortunate enough to purchase a incredible farm or piece of land and start turning that into a farm. And, uh, we've got some neighbours up near our farm that live across the road and they've started getting involved with the. We get a lot of turtles on the beach, at the front of our property and they've really gotten involved and in the community about setting, I guess, things up to protect the turtles and finding the nests and marking the nests and all these types of things. And so for Australia Day, this, they put on a little bit of a community barbecue and invited a few of the locals around just to support what they're doing. And we hadn't met Well, we hadn't met any of the neighbours actually that were at this thing.
Speaker 2:But long story short, we went up there for the long weekend. Camille, my wife, didn't end up coming with us. She had some stuff to do at home, so it was just me and the girls and as usual, when I get up there I start getting stuck into things and I just find all these jobs and the girls get on the quad bike and the horse and we're thinking far out like we've actually got too much to do. We're not going to have time to go over the road and see Craig and Nicky and the girl's like, no, come on, dad, you've got to go over there, you've got to meet the locals.
Speaker 2:So anyway, we went over there and I don't know, two hours, two and a half, three hours later, I was still talking to Emma. So I walked into and Craig and Nicky have introduced me to some people and one of them being Emma, and Craig was asking me what I was doing. I was telling him that I'm flat out and I'm getting some spraying some rat's tail because I don't know me, being the new farmer, I get told that rat's tail is a bad thing and you got to get rid of it. And Emma's overheard me and yeah bang, the conversation started and now I've met an incredible human being that just has so much to offer. So, emma, thanks very much for coming today and having a chat no, thank you for bringing me on.
Speaker 1:Yeah, right style grass.
Speaker 2:Right style grass has connected quite a few people with me yeah, well, look, the conversations we had that day have definitely changed my outlook on things and I've definitely spent a lot of time on the internet since I've come home doing a bit of research and looking into things and reached out to yourself.
Speaker 2:So like, I guess, to give people a little bit of a background, maybe before we start talking about anything and everything, because this podcast is about my purpose in life now is to create a new building industry, and so the podcast was really started to share people's stories of their struggles in the industry and getting into business and all those types of things, and we've learned now, through people that are reaching out to come on and tell their stories, that it's helping a lot more than just the building industry. But, like everything, so much like you can't have a great building business without doing self-development, and the more self-development you do, the better business you have, the better relationships you have, the better connected with everything, everything. And that's where you tie in, because you weren't just talking to me about farming that day, like you just have so many things and it just blew my mind what you're talking about. So can you give us a little bit of background about, I guess, what it is you do?
Speaker 1:um, what it is I do um there. That is a very there's many different aspects, so, of who I am as as a human, here and um. So there's the farmer, um, the mother, the teacher, um, and, of course, always connected with the land, but it's um, it's about all of it, and I suppose it's more like and like I keep saying, it's a it's all ecological, everything's an ecosystem, everything's working as it is, and I came from a construction background. Um, I'm mechanic by trade, but I'm also a sparky by trade, but I'm also an instrument fitter as well. But then it's like no, there's something more and, of course, like most times that we go through a process of you know, there's a dark place before it actually open up to a different way of life, and that there is just a trigger to actually move us forward.
Speaker 2:It's amazing the way you've just worded that and that there is just a trigger to actually move us forward. It's amazing the way you've just worded that, because everybody that comes on here to tell a story, and this whole journey for me started from me going through a dark place. Yeah.
Speaker 2:And I tell everyone now, like you can't have improvement until you be vulnerable, like that dark place has come for a reason, oh, definitely, and you've got to be vulnerable enough to express it and talk about it and like I think it can actually become a superpower it is.
Speaker 1:It's like a trigger for for actually what is great within us, and it's a trigger for us to discover that and actually reconnect to the energies and reconnect to the land and reconnect back to our hearts. And so so my biggest, I think my biggest driver is actually the land. And it's not just okay, it's not just farming Like you don't farm. You can farm land, but there's farming with land, which is a totally different story altogether, and that there is. You notice, there's so many different modalities around it. But it's about bringing it all together as the ecology, instead of just saying, oh, it's this one system or it's this one system and we keep looking at something that nature has a hundred times, thousand times more experience in rectifying than what we can ever do as custodians of the land.
Speaker 1:So, and it's about working with what there is. That's why, when we got onto rat's tail grass, rat's tail grass is there for a reason. It's there because, well, one, the soil nutrient level is not there. The phosphorus is usually down to 0.0 below zero and it's supposed to be up around 15 16 percent in most cases and the other one is over poisoned, like rat's tail grass has a way of of changing the whole molecular structure of a residual poison, so it's actually no more effective in the soil anymore. So and then it's like, okay, these things that we think is a bad thing, it's not. And then, when we actually just step back and look at it from a different perspective like you said, the dark time it's like, oh no, this actually was like the door that opens to the biggest opportunity that you can have.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's powerful stuff but it's hard, isn't it? Because, like I know, I've got family members and mates and things now that you see having hard times and you can't help or change someone that doesn't want to be helped or changed. No, and it just breaks my heart to see people that go through it and look, everybody's going to be different, everyone's going to take something different. What was your thing? Like I didn't actually realize you'd come from a mechanic and electrical sort of background. Like what was your turning point?
Speaker 1:like that made you take the journey you're taking now that oh so I spent about three, four years. I had a child with my husband. Wonderful people and wonderful man. Very, very I'll get teary here. That's all right.
Speaker 1:And I was stuck in, you know, having to work for a living and a job and like that, because that's what we get brought up in, so that's what we think is the norm of life, the same as a farming industry like. The norm of life is like if you can't make money off the land, you go get the job to support the land, you know, and keep pulling out of the land. You never give back to it, so it just keeps degrading. Well, it's the same with our own lives. You know, you keep forcing yourself, you keep, you know, swapping it time for energy and I spent. My boy was 16 months old and I went away to work too. Well, I had the trades husband is a tradie as well, he's a concreter and a machiner operator. That was what we did outside the farms. But I'm like I'm the biggest earning ticket. So I, I go and I saw my child three times in three years. Yeah.
Speaker 1:And then, of course, an incident occurred and it's like, okay, well, what am I doing? You know, it's like I'm working away to get to a plan that I'm never going to get to, because I'm separating myself from my actual family and when they needed me, I wasn't there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and we all get sucked into that trap, don't we? Oh yeah, exactly like you just said. You and I have talked about it on the phone.
Speaker 2:One of my most passionate things now is, I believe, I firmly believe, that 99 of people on this planet do not know who they really are oh, they don't definitely, they're just they're bred into an environment and, like you said, we're all taught like go to school, get a job, go get a house, get married, have kids, get a mortgage and I suppose the other thing too is like a family's a family, you stick together and it's like, no, we are not.
Speaker 1:Family just means slave to the household. So it's like I've got my posse and that's my husband and my children. And then I've got my people. Who's the people? Well, like you like become open-hearted and somewhere you just connect with them. But family, like, because of this incident, my husband got chucked out, not chucked out his family, but pretty much shunned from his family and he doesn't talk to a lot of well, I think it's just one auntie and his grandma, so twin brother, nieces and nephews, and it's like, oh well, I thought that was my fault.
Speaker 1:That was the dark moment, this is all my fault. But it's like and it's funny how things work, because I was so obsessed with work. Work actually wanted me to get a psychological clearance before I could go back. And the lady who was the psychologist she actually had a book on her shelf. It was William Whitecloud, the Magician's Way. What was it called? William Whitecloud?
Speaker 2:The Magician's Way. What was it called? Sorry?
Speaker 1:William Whitecloud, the Magician's Way, and another one was Colette Stryker's. And yeah, about you know the abundance codes and what is in here. And the Magician's Way was quite an interesting story in itself, but it actually opens up the start of it all and it's like, oh, there's a whole different world and but it's not only a whole different world for, like, just people themselves, but it's everything. You know, we we're stuck in a scarcity world. We're stuck into the trying to reap what we can out of everything, squeeze every little last drop out of it. But when we try to squash money, it's like water and when you open your hands they're dry. So it's the same with land. Like you try and keep raping that land, it's going to eventually give up on you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's all like. I just find it amazing Again, like I just I do repeat a lot of things because I, I don't know, it's the way I learn, I think. But like it blows my mind how, the more you open your mind, everything connects. Like people are going to wonder, like why have you got this lady here today talking about farming and regeneration? But as this conversation goes on, they're going to get like, why have you got this lady here today talking about farming and regeneration?
Speaker 2:But as this conversation goes on, they're going to get just as like, um, I'm not sure on the word of it, but like I just can't get enough of you now. Like, like to give you a little bit of um before we started recording today. Um, we're up in the house and emma and my wife and I were talking about our property and our plans and things, and um, like Emma, just I'm getting goosebumps now just thinking about but Emma did this little exercise with me where, like I, literally like I pulled energy through my body and then and then let some bad energy go. Um, and then just the conversations we're having up there about what the land can do and what it does, but how, how we get connected to it and how it sinks in yeah, it sinks in and I just think it's.
Speaker 2:It's all tied together, like if we just take a few seconds to figure out who we are and what it is we actually want to do with our lives and stop living through what we see on instagram and social media or what we've been brought up to believe. Or we might have friends and families that maybe we think we want what they have.
Speaker 2:Whatever it is, just be yourself yeah like exactly run your own race and it sounds like that's what you've done, like because you are incredibly passionate now about what you're doing oh, definitely, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Uncover the secrets that you hide within yourself yeah and and and.
Speaker 1:the thing is it's it's not only the secrets of the passion, but it's also the secrets of of the seeds of the identity, of the things that you've been resolving your whole life, trying to fix a part of yourself and then realizing there's nothing to fix. You know it's you're, you're not broken, it's just you're running from an identity of where you've been hurt before and you think that's that's, that's the mechanism that you fall back to. I've been hurt there. Let's just run away from it or we fight it. You know the fight or flight, like we are literally animals. We're a fight or flight and it's the fact that when we go back to the full nature of who we are as animals.
Speaker 1:and like I said about the pack, yeah you know, a pack has the killer, the herder, the the one on the outside, that's the alerter, and then you've got the hunter, and that that's us as well. And for us to have like, oh crap, I just like I'm so frustrated today, just want to kill something. It's like no, I can't be like that. I've got to deny that piece of me. But it's like no, I am actually a killer, I'm a predator as well. But when we embrace that and accept it and go okay, it no longer has the power over us anymore, which means we have a choice and we don't have to be that killer or we don't have to be that real angry, powerless person because it's like it. It's now you've gone. Okay, that is a part of my nature, that is a part of who I am as a human, but it doesn't mean I have to act on it. Yeah, but the more that you fight it, the more that it starts to rule, and it's like it's not about internal fighting anymore, it's about just surrendering.
Speaker 2:Yeah yeah, it's um man, my brain's just, it's about just surrendering. Yeah, yeah, it's um man, my brain's just going a million miles now, cause I'm, as you're talking, I'm taking, I'm taking it all in and I'm trying to remember what other conversation we've had so I can make sure we talk about it in this podcast. Um, like one of the phone conversations we've had where you touched on a little bit about what you just said about the pack we're a pack and those types of things, but, um, I'm trying to remember how you, um, how you said it. But, like we all, all those natural, a lot of those natural instincts that we have, uh, almost being forced out of us now, because we're all like sheep, we're all made to follow the leader, we've turned into the herders.
Speaker 1:We're not allowed to be the killer. We're not allowed to be the hunter. We're not allowed to be the one on the outside checking for the perimeter, the one on the outside checking the perimeter, that's anxiety-driven people. That's actually a part of their instinct. That's actually a part of who they are. They're meant to look out for danger and all that, but they've been forced to be herders for so long. And we are. We've been forced into be a hurting type and if you don't fit that box, you are wrong and you are broken and there's something just deadly wrong with you.
Speaker 1:But it's not. That's actually a part of our nature that makes so much sense, like we're.
Speaker 2:For the last 12 months like it absolutely breaks my heart We've been having a. Our youngest daughter has been having quite a few issues with going to school. So our oldest started high school last year so they got separated, different schools and our youngest one just has really been battling going to school. Like I'm tearing up now talking about it, but like she literally will kick and scream in the car and just will not want to go and the school. Like I've been not forcing her because like I don't want to look back in or hurt or either of us to look back in 10 years time or 20 years time and go.
Speaker 2:Oh, that point in time changed me because you forced me to do that. But you're just saying about anxiety. Like that's her. Like she is the one that's always worried about what's going to happen next, or what's going to happen if they don't show up, or what's going to happen if we run out of petrol, or what's going to happen if my best friend's not at school today, or what's going to happen if the teacher asks me to do something.
Speaker 2:That's her that's her, that's a part of who she is so the last few weeks I'm not sure why, maybe it was after the conversation I had with you but, um, my wife and I really been trying to embrace that and like, let her have those feelings but support her and and like, help her out with solutions.
Speaker 2:Well, look, if that's fine, if that happens, and maybe you can do this, or, and and she's, she's like a different person and she's been going to school and, um, actually, three or four times in the last week we've actually, like my wife's been able to actually leave her at the gate and she's walked in with friends, which for the last 12 months has not happened. And so, like, I think that's like we actually got to a point where we were looking into homeschool, because society is just, it is so easy. I just look at everything now, like the big companies of the world, everything is just so efficient and it's so efficient so they can make more money. And it's like our schooling system, like they just want it to be the one way, because the one way is easy to do and it's easy to teach, and like, fuck that. Like we are all different.
Speaker 1:Fucking knows we are.
Speaker 2:And we all have, like you just said, like we all have strengths and weaknesses, and just because you don't, you're not.
Speaker 1:I'm not the same as you and you're not the same as me doesn't mean that you're broken or I'm broken or yeah, like just because sometimes it's the same as being emotional, like you're saying um, I remember I was talking to one parent once and he's like, oh, my daughter, she suffers anxiety. And I was like how old is she? Oh, she's only eight. I'm like, oh, okay, well, what do you do to support that? And he goes oh, I just tell her to do deep breathing. And you know, and saying it's okay, and that sort of thing, I said um, so you're telling her that her state of being is a wrong state of being to be in and that she's got to try and fit into different state of being by deep breathing. So technically you're denying that she's actually.
Speaker 1:This is the conversation we had. And but it's like oh, no, you know what everybody feels, that everybody feels that anxiety. Like everybody going into the room is like oh fuck, what's in this room? And it's like that child just needs to acknowledge that what she's feeling is actually not wrong. It's like everybody has this. Yeah, because the more she thinks that it's wrong, she keeps trying to deny it and then the anxiety rules her life. Yeah.
Speaker 1:And, like you said, you know she is that one on the outside the territory. I suppose, like what do they call it? The people they used to put out the night watch?
Speaker 2:The shepherds yeah.
Speaker 1:No, no, the watchmen to watch the tribe to make sure nothing comes in you know, that's her nature. So she comes to you, like what you said, you've been supporting that like, oh well, actually this is what can actually happen if that happens there. And she's like, oh okay, that's okay now, because instead of going, oh no, it would be right. She's like no, it's not right because there's this thing and I don't have an answer for it, and that's what it is. She turns to you because, well, you're the tribe leader.
Speaker 2:But my wife and I have felt horrible because for the last 12 months we just didn't know what to do. We've tried counsellors, we've tried all sorts of things and, like you said, all of them are like oh look, here's some breathing exercise, get her to do this, this. Oh, look, here's a piece of paper, get it to write down this, this and this. So, and we've tried all this stuff and, like I do feel bad because we got to a point where it was quite frustrating, like like literally, like, come on, it's going to be okay, like there's no reason to do this. And now I feel terrible because it's not and, um, it's okay to be who you are.
Speaker 2:But I feel like the battle is and this is where we sort of got to a bit of a head last year. We started seeing a better way to do things. But then she goes to school and they just do what they're told to do and, like you go, like People that listen to this podcast would have heard me talk about it before. I think like I get anxiety. I feel I've learned to use it as my superpower it is. I would guarantee if I went to a doctor they would try and prescribe me with something I cannot stand these days, how everything is treated with a prescription. Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 1:It's like I was saying to you earlier, like every medication and every prescription on the market, there is always well, most, most of it comes from weeds like a weed actually has what your body needs in it for that and all the plants are there already for it, and it's a forgotten trade. It's been pushed down for so many years. And not only that like the moment that the editions change, in a lot of the books, you will find that a lot gets actually put out of them as well, something I've noticed as well.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think I was just listening to something very recently.
Speaker 2:I just heard a few stats and I'll get his name wrong if I try and say it, so I won't try and say it, but it was basically saying that like two-thirds of all drugs and chemicals that are produced on the planet now are used in agriculture and so that's going into the animals we eat, all the foods we eat. And then the other interesting part of that was they went back 40 years and this was only averages. But 40 years ago 9% of a household income went to yearly medical expenses and 18% went to purchasing food, whereas as of last year year it had completely flipped around and like this wasn't taking into account um and the guy pointed this out like it's not taking into account all the takeout that everyone eats now, but like the household income spends around nine percent on food but over 20 on medical expenses. So to me it's a no-brainer. That's got to be impacted by all the shit we eat, because of all the chemicals and the drugs and shit that we're getting fed is creating more disease.
Speaker 2:You were telling me just before about the sugar cane. Can you talk about that?
Speaker 1:Yes, I can. So the way that if we go back to our natural roots, so our body is programmed over millions of years, of well, thousands of years, apologies of humans being on this earth and our body recognises natural foods in their state, but what happens is when we step in and start processing things, it changes the whole molecular structure of that food. So the sugar cane, so our body, so we used to go up to sugar cane, snap it in half and start chewing on it. You know, our body recognizes the juice in its natural form and it's like, yeah, all right, this is what it's for, but when and this leads into energy's transferred, it's not destroyed and it's not created. So when we squash that sugar cane, the energy that it's taken to squash that sugar cane, that that juice now holds, the energy that that has squashed it out of the actual cane juice, instead of our energy being used with eating, it's actually a mechanical energy getting pushed into it. And then we use dryers to dry that juice out, to crystallize it. So then you've got all that heat that actually goes into that liquid form that turn it into a crystal. So now it's got an extra process put onto it and then we bake a cake with that sugar.
Speaker 1:So what is that? Three, four different processes, and the way that energy is actually transferred is that we've got protons and neutrons are actually stable and on the outside is the electrons, and the only way energy is transferred is free electrons, when electron goes from one to the other, and so it's just an electron flow, and so that's an electron accumulation in that food that we're actually putting into our mouth and electrolyzing our body with negative electrons. And if we don't have the ability to, to utilize all that, but not only that our body doesn't have the ability to recognize that structure, because it's now gone through so many different processes, especially refined processes, that it's like, oh, what is this? We're just going to put this somewhere for it to grow, and so this electron builds up somewhere, and then it's like, okay, the body has to develop something to take up that electronic sink. So it develops sickness.
Speaker 1:Um, typically I'll go cancer, because it's the easiest one. Um, it's like, okay, yeah, we'll bring this sickness in into an area that we have a blockage in our body, usually associated with an emotional, traumatic event from our past that we haven't actually dealt with. We've just stuffed it down, but it actually rules and then, when that builds by the time that it actually gets recognised as a disease or a growth, it's too late. It's sinking all that energy into it and, like I said, with all that extra energy that it can't move and the fact that we wear shoes as well, we have no way of discharging that back to the energy in the earth, because the earth's crust is a constant flow of electrons.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it all makes sense. Like everything, like everything is energy, isn't it like? Where energy, everything on this planet is energy. There's energy flowing around everywhere. Yeah, um, and yeah, when you I heard you talking about that. Like it, just, it all makes sense yeah like the um, and again it's.
Speaker 2:I just find it amazing how all this ties together. So I've got a lady. I go and see um every now and then I say I'm going for a tune-up, like no different to a car, like um, she does really deep massage, like gets into your knots and things. And um, she's been doing some stuff with me because I went there, because I'd done my back and she could. She says, like you, you've always got this issue in this hip and so she knows that I'm getting more and more open-minded. So she said, oh look, would you mind doing this, this? I've forgotten the name of it, but um, I could feel it. I could feel that negative energy and like she actually told me some things that were happening in my life that I haven't. She had no idea about it, but through that it's moved. So like I completely agree with you, like your body holds on to things.
Speaker 1:Your body is the biggest liar, not the biggest liar, the biggest truth teller to the liar of the mind. So the mind's like I'm okay, I'm okay. And the body's like no, you're not.
Speaker 4:This is the mind, so the mind's like I'm okay, I'm okay.
Speaker 1:And the body's like no, you're not. This is the truth. And it's like it's the biggest tattletaler, it's like I'm going to dob on you. This is how we're going to do it, because every part of the body tells a story, but then so does the landscape. See, I don't see any difference between a human body and the landscape. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Like if you keep trying to take that skin away all the time, all the time, all the time, you're just going to have bone. You're going to keep just. There'll be nothing left to support the system, to nourish it, to bring it back. Yeah.
Speaker 1:And if you get that skin spot, and that skin spot can be lantana and all that's there is to protect a spot while it heals underneath and to moisturize it yeah but if you kept picking at it and picking at it and it start bleeding and it's like, do you just keep picking at it or do you allow that to heal up and heal over? And lantana is doing the same thing. Lantana is a moisture accumulator and you know it's the Band-Aid, it's the one that brings it back.
Speaker 2:And again, that's something that we're told to clear out. For a long time we had a forestry. Our friends of ours had a forestry lease and we used to go up and stay in all the time and like part of the conditions were we had to keep the Lantana out. We had to clean it all and get rid of it all. It was impossible. There was lantana everywhere.
Speaker 2:Again, just the open-mindedness, seeing how all this relates to each other. It's all connected, isn't it? I know we're probably switching around topics a little bit here, but seriously, I've got so many things I want to talk to you about. Look, I know it's going to connect with a lot of our listeners, because a lot of our listeners have goals to work on the land or have properties or acreage and farms and things.
Speaker 2:But through our conversations I mentioned to you that I want to do everything on our farm more traditionally and I know it would be cheaper to do some steel cattle yards. But I'm going to build a traditional timber set of cattle yards and you were talking to me about how, with cattle and energy, like their energy is affected by being enclosed in steel cattle yards and like obviously that leads to the people that are handling the cattle, having more injuries because the cattle get worked up more and all those types of things. And you're saying, saying like, timber is a natural product, it's connected to the land and the land's connected to the ocean, like everything fits together, doesn't?
Speaker 1:it? Oh yeah, it does. And like I was explaining to someone the other day, like if you get a rose cutting from somewhere, like how do you know that rose cutting, the original bush, is wherever in the world? And when you put that in the ground that that is still connected to every other rose bushes come from that cutting, because we one, we've got the electronic process on the ground but you know there's still land underneath the ocean. So everything actually is a hundred percent connected and and, like you said, with the energies, you know still revibrates energy straight off. And when get right down and into it, um, if you go, the electron flows. When you cut electron open, all it is is a photon, you know, and it goes on vibrations and and then you're getting into the vibrational energy side of it, but still it doesn't. It like soaks it up and then reflects it back up, but timber it will.
Speaker 1:Actually, you know, if you've got fear handling that cow, you know it's just going to keep throwing it back between you and the cow and the cow's going to be so worked up and, like you said, it will lead to more injuries because she doesn't know what she's doing and all she's feeling is fear and it's like like, well, the predator that's trying to eat me is scared, so I should be 10 times more scared, because that's really what we are to. Cows, yeah, and but with timber you have the opportunity, because timber actually comes from trees which have always been connected to the soil and actually are the soil electronic throws from. They pull the energy out of the sun. Literally are the soil electronic throws from. They pull the energy out of the sun, literally are the energy transformers and put it into the ground and so they're a sink. So when you feel the fear, the fear is already dissipating and into the timber and back to where it goes, so of course they'll flow better and they're much happier, and the noise isn't there either.
Speaker 1:yeah, um and yeah, the cows are so much more content in timber yards so how did you like again changing topic?
Speaker 2:I'm good at changing topics um like, how were you brought up around this type of conversation and talk?
Speaker 1:actually no, I wasn't. I spent a lot of time by myself. I'm the youngest of three daughters. I'm three years younger than my middle sister and of course, when they went to school I had mum and mum she thinks she might have dealt with a lot of postnatal depression, so I spent a lot of time by myself.
Speaker 1:So my days was pretty much going with the dog chasing rabbits or chasing hares, or going in the bush, or jumping on my pony and riding by myself you know, and I had time to just see everything as a child, instead of having to be locked in anything because, like mum's, like I'll just go outside and I'm like, yeah, all right, I'll just go, and there was no pressure to come home because our block of land wasn't near any neighbours, like it was forestry behind us and a couple of thousand acres that way, and it's just like you get a chance to just see everything.
Speaker 2:Yeah, a lot of people these days don't get to see that everything do they like, it's just no they have their house, they get in.
Speaker 2:They listen to the radio all the way to work. They get to work, they do their job. They listen to the radio all the way home. They hear the same thing repeated to them two dozen times a day. They come home, have dinner, watch the news. They hear the same thing repeated again exactly. They have no idea what is actually like. They think what's going on on our planet is what they're being told on the news and the radio exactly and yet they don't.
Speaker 2:They don't go out and like I don't know. We're obviously seeing a huge um interest in this type of stuff now, since covid, like everybody, wants to go and have a farm stay or go in an Airbnb in the country, which is great for the country. Like country, towns are booming and seeing a lot more tourists and things, but people go and do it for one weekend or a week and then they go back to their concrete jungle and get back into their shitty routine.
Speaker 1:Back into the same routine. That brings me back to I worked inney for a while on the tunnels. It was only supposed to be a three-month trip. Um turned into 12 months and um I rented a house there and I was like there is nothing to do in the city.
Speaker 1:I eat and drink, yeah, and, and it's like there's nothing to do and it took me ages to find a patch of grass just to stick my feet in and it's like the more I was on the concrete, it's more like winding up the energy and it's like really reinforcing. Um, there's no release, like there's no, there's no time to actually just release all those. It's like a fizziness of energy and it's like it's pent up and it's built up and it's like no, I just need to you know like it's like what do I do?
Speaker 1:Like where do I go? Where do I go? And yeah, just not be. Yeah. Be in being, be in this body, grounded to everything.
Speaker 2:I think I'd love to connect you to Shay can correct me if I get a name wrong Paula Baker Latrobe. We recently did a podcast with her. She's her and her husband in the States. They've led the world for a long time in building more healthy, sustainable homes and stuff and like I've mentioned it quite a few times on the podcast since I've spoken to her, but like it just made so much sense. Like she talks about we, we just we're caught up in our lives and like why do you feel so refreshed when you go on holidays? Yeah, and she, she says like because nine times out so refreshed when you go on holidays.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and she, she says like because nine times out of ten when you go on holidays, you're going to the mountains or the water or the ocean or the sand or the dead, like you're going somewhere and you're immersing yourself in going swimming, sitting on rocks and looking at a waterfall, going for a bushwalk, like you're like sniffing the salt air, like it's not the fact that you're not at work, it's because you're, you're getting back to nature, which is what we need to do reconnect back to actually the truth of where we are the
Speaker 2:truth of who we are pull it back to the port, yeah yeah, I'll have to um, yeah, I'll have to send an email introduce you to you. It's getting like a house on fire, but it makes so much sense, doesn't it?
Speaker 1:it does, and actually it's quite fascinating. You say that, um so with when we come back to it, like we're meant to be herders and if we're not, we're meant to fit in this box. But it's quite interesting. There's been some research done on it.
Speaker 1:I don't know the name, I'm the same as you, I don't remember the name but squares, square buildings, you know, like I was saying, squares with cattle actually gives them a place for them to rest, and you just keep squeezing the square out, whereas a circle for them it's like, oh, I can't find a place to them to rest, and you just keep squeezing the square out, whereas a circle for them it's like, oh, I can't find a place to find relief, whereas with a human like it's like, oh, okay, I'm in a square, I'm in a box, like, whereas when we have the circular room, the energy just keeps flowing around us and it flows through us and with us. And it's quite interesting and the Fibonacci, this Fibonacci sequence and what that is, and connecting back into that and the base tones on Fibonacci, on rounded areas, and the settleness of the mind in regards to that as well, is quite phenomenal.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I've never heard that, but it makes sense yeah, um, fibonacci, um, it's quite interesting.
Speaker 2:Uh, it's what the whales run on as well yeah you see the, the spiral yeah yeah well, it's like again back to nature, like it's incredible, like you think about the incredible animals we have on this planet that do their migrations and live with no technology and everything's based off the sun, the wind, the rain. Like we've lost all those senses we have. Yeah, like I doubt there's very few people left on this planet that would survive if they had to live off their own bloody. I don't know.
Speaker 1:That brings me to a story of my son. He'd come to me when he was about four or five, before he started school, and he's like Mum, the Goo Goo Gaggers taught me how to read the weather. And I'm like I don't know what you're talking about, but he goes no, no, no, they told me. And so I started questioning who these Goo Goo Gaggers were and it turned out it's like they're beings from a different universe, and when I started listening to him a bit, I just allowed him to open up instead of shutting him down on it, and he could know when it was going to rain.
Speaker 1:But the other funny story about that was that he told me a story. He said oh, the two brothers. They went walking down the creek, down the river, and one of the brothers shot the other brother. And this actually happened back in the 70s and I was talking to one of the older residents there and they said actually, no, that did happen. The brothers went shooting and they were roo-shooting and they accidentally shot the other brother. And I'm like this is a four-year-old that's coming up with this story and you're just like how disconnected do we actually make our own children, let alone ourselves, from what is actually what the land is trying to show us yeah and it's well.
Speaker 1:There's so much more than what we actually think and what we're actually taught and it's like it's almost like you go to school to unlearn what you actually already know. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Because when you get back to this state, it's like that deep knowing. Because when you get back to this state, it's like that deep knowing and, like this little boy, like he knew, he's like yeah, no, this is just what happened, mum, and I'm just like okay, and so we have to go through an unlearning process and then another unlearning process to learn again at deep, at who we are.
Speaker 2:Well, I feel like it's coming out a lot more now, like I know growing up like all this stuff was just woo woo and, if you like, if someone, if someone talked about this sort of stuff, you're like who the fuck? Stay away from them. Like they need to be put a tinfoil hat on and be locked up like exactly burned at the stake.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but it's like I do feel like there's a lot more people out there now that are seeing the benefits of it and there's too many people getting benefits from it to not take notice. Um, definitely and like.
Speaker 2:so to get back, I guess, on um why we connected with you and, I guess, to let the listeners know more about what you do. You work with the land, like you said before, like you're all for the land. That's what you're all about. And my wife and I were just telling you the story about our property and, like we've had a goal and plans for 15 years I've had it my whole life. Camille took a bit of convincing in the beginning, but now she loves it.
Speaker 2:But like we just we wanted to not only have a property but then over the last 10 or so years, caravanning and traveling around and stuff, like we've seen, we've stayed at lots of like we I forget the names like wiki camps and things like and we've stayed at lots of like we I forget the names like wiki camps and things. And we've stayed on lots of stations and farms and all types of things and we've seen what we really liked and what we didn't like and what people could have done better. And so we always had this plan like to buy an incredible, like great property and set it up for car renting and camping, and so that was our plan with this property and then, like we bought it and like we started, we didn't even go to look at that property. I think I was telling you like we actually went to look at the one next door and then, long story short, we we ended up with this one and it just like you get to the front gate, you walk up the hill, you look at the ocean and you just front gate. You walk up the hill, you look at the ocean and you just like we just feel like we've found god's country and now we've changed our plans and that's why we're talking to you.
Speaker 2:Like we want to we've got a da in at the moment with council like we, we want to build a like an eco, little eco resort where we can actually help people reconnect. Like our thing's going to be like disconnect to reconnect, like we've um, oh, I was nearly going to be like disconnect to reconnect Like we've. I was nearly going to tell people the name, but like we've come up with this incredible name. That's all about the land and where the property is, and the turtles and the ocean and just connecting it all together, because I think more people need to do that, like people need to go away for a weekend and leave their phone in their car, take their shoes off, walk around the grass and the country and the sand and go for a swim in the ocean and sit and smell the smells and, like all those things, listen to the birds, because it recharges you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it does and, like you said, like a landscape always has a blueprint and it just sucks you into yours and it opens up our blueprint. Yeah. And that's what land's for.
Speaker 2:Well, I'm going to say I'm on the same mission as you now because I'm working for the land. I'm doing whatever I can to give back to that land and make it a special place. So how do you fit into all this? So let's tell people about what you do, what I do.
Speaker 1:So there's many things, I suppose, when it comes to it, but at the core heart of it, it's about regeneration is probably a well-balanced, a well-round word. Our aim is to build an ecology of the system, so it's like an ecosystem. We see what's there and allow what's there to come through and read what's there and it's like, okay, I now got this weed. I'm like okay, instead of going, oh shit, I've got to destroy it, I've got to control it, I've got to pull it out. You look at it and you go, okay, what is this doing for my land? What is this doing for my land? What is this supporting? And it's like, okay, what am I not seeing for this weed to be here and it's reading that and learning how to read that and going, okay, we're not going to react, be in reactive mode, we're going to be in. Okay, let's nurture this, let's help this weed in doing what it's doing to achieve its main goal.
Speaker 1:And a weed's main goal is to build fertility. And they have the deep tap roots. They open up the ground. They have big, massive broadleaf so that it can bring the power in from the sun and put it back into the ground. They put sugars out in the rooting systems for fungal systems to start to grow. But when we take that away, fungal systems can't grow. So we support people in the transition of learning how to read the landscape, what the landscape's for, and work with it through rehydration and ecosystems.
Speaker 2:and so sorry to to butt in, but you were talking to us before about fungal, so you were saying that's what we need Fungal systems is what you aim for.
Speaker 1:So Dr Gandhi has a really good book and there's research articles in there saying that they've tested particles in the clouds and it's got glyphosate traces of glyphosate in it. So when there's a rain event and there's an accumulation of water, there's obviously accumulation of glyphosate as well.
Speaker 2:Isn't that what they put in chemicals? What's glyphosate?
Speaker 1:Roundup. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And what glyphosate is is actually an antibiotic, so it kills good bugs and bad bugs. Technically, it puts them all to sleep, so the soil stops working, which is the way that the weeds pass away. But the weeds can actually transition that back and when we have this whole dead system in our soil, well, unalive or sleeping system in our soil, it's about awaking it back up. That the sleeping system. When we have just bacteria-dominated soils, our vegetation cannot last in the soil for more than three months without rain. When we have fungal systems, we actually have the ability to go into a drought, not have rain and still have a moisture cycle and still have a dew cycle, the small water cycle. It doesn't need rain to keep thriving so you're.
Speaker 2:So, basically, if like so we've been again. We've been led to believe that weeds are bad and you need to have a nice lawn. So, but basically, a lawn means that it's the soil is terrible and it needs to be rained on to survive, because there's nothing in the soil to help it live. Am I right, is that?
Speaker 1:our yeah dead correct, because grass cannot support itself. Grass takes approximately 5% of the soil nutrients and gives back probably about 0.5 to 1.2 maximum, and weeds will take 30% of the soil nutrients and give back 100 to 150. So when you have a pure grass system and you've got nothing feeding it, that grass system eventually will kill itself out. So what comes after that is the wheat. So a wheat is just supporting the system.
Speaker 2:It all makes so much sense. Like seriously, like you hear you talking, you're like fuck me, like that is just. You hear you talking you're like fuck me, like that is just, it's how it works.
Speaker 1:It is, and nature's been doing it for millions of years. You know she is much more efficient at what anything we can do to try and control the situation. Yeah.
Speaker 1:So just let it be. I don't mean let it be like let it go, go but work with it, like if you've got a big, massive lantana infestation. Well, like if it's 100 percent lantana on 80 acres, you say, or a thousand acres, or ten thousand acres, it's all the same principle. It's about utilizing that weed to go up to the higher point, because the weed will never live in its own residue and utilizing it and being okay with it being there, but managing where it is for the best utilization of what it's trying to do, yeah, instead of trying to fight it and control it yeah, yeah I'm just sitting here thinking like you, um and again trying to tie it all together, like you're here and I've used this, these analogies a little bit as well like our brains are like our lawns.
Speaker 2:Like if we don't maintain them, they get full of weeds. And like people talk about the, the weeds being like the anxiety and the depression and things. But like you're saying, with the, the it's, it's part of the process, like it's something we're meant to work through and we're meant to come out like. So again, I'm just putting my quirky sort of spin on what you're saying, but you're basically saying, like the grass grows, it dies out, the weeds come in, the weeds improve it and then the grass comes back better than before.
Speaker 2:And I just think that's an incredible analogy for your life. Like you go through tough times in life, you get depression, you get anxiety and if you look at it the right, through the right lens, you come out the other side of it stronger and it ties in. Like I was listening to another podcast the other day and they were talking about this. Like if you, as as bad as, sometimes, feel like it doesn't matter at what level you're, at what dollar value you're worth, what you have in your life. If you look back to the toughest times you've had in your life, normally something great has happened just after that. Yeah, and it's the same thing that you're talking about with mother nature exactly the same.
Speaker 1:Yeah, exactly right. Like weeds are not something to control or kill, they're're a symptom. Yeah. And that's all it is. Anxiety is just a symptom. Okay, okay, okay. What you know? What am I denying myself? Yeah.
Speaker 1:You know, I'm denying myself the fear. I'm denying myself, okay, I'm denying myself that I don't have control and it's like, well, yeah, that's the human identity that there's, like, you know, it's a constant and that's what someone says. You know, oh, yeah, but then you've got personal development in this and I've done this. No, you're always going to have that structure of identity. That's a part of being human, you know, and it's learning that you can have the tools to pivot to each one and going, okay, yeah, oh, look, I'm an identity. I see you, I see where you are, I see where you come from, but I'm choosing this. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and it's the same. Like I said, back to the land again. I see the weed. All right, what are you trying to tell me? What's the core root of the reason why you're growing there? All right, let's build with you. Then you know, we don't rip ourselves to pieces to try and get rid of piece of that piece of person who has the anxiety. We just go. Okay, all right, how can I support you there? And it's, it's not a fragmented human, it's a multifaceted, and that's what I said. Like, biodiversity is key in a healthy landscape. And well, you've got the freshwater lands, you've got biodiversity and you've got the ecosystem. An ecosystem cannot thrive without the animals that are killing something, cannot thrive without the weed that's growing in a spot and and it's all about, it's that full ecosystem, it's a full circle.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and we, like humans, just want to try and control everything, don't they?
Speaker 1:Yeah, we come in and we break that circle.
Speaker 2:Yeah and it's yeah. There's a lot of things that make me frustrated, like great whites. For example, like someone gets attacked by a shark and then all of a sudden, they're out hunting sharks, fraser Olin, like the dingoes the dingo bites someone. They're meant to be there, you're in their environment. Exactly Like fucking, wake up to yourself With food.
Speaker 1:It's like I said to someone once he goes oh, this killer that's in prison, you know, every time that he had something bad happen in his life, he went out and killed someone and I'm like, oh, what happens if that was just like he was the killer of the human nature and like that stopped the massacre by him killing that one person? You know he could have kept that in and kept bottling it up to the point, but that's just who he is and it's not judging on who he is and where he is in a time of his life. Like that's who he thinks he has to be, because society's shaped that it's bad to think to kill someone, and so he's pushed it down so much that it's actually bubbled up to an actual reality for him. And instead of going, yeah, you know what, we're not judgmental, it's just a part of who you are, just accept it. Like the lion goes and kills the baby gazelles I mean, it's a part of their nature Like do we tell them no, you can't do that. No, you can't.
Speaker 2:We're not saying people should get frustrating done, murder people.
Speaker 1:That's not what yeah good point. That's not what I'm saying, but it's not being judgmental about that person, because if that person was actually supported and go hey mate, do you actually? Oh, do you feel like doing that? Okay, like, where is that actually really coming from? Where's the core of the truth?
Speaker 1:of that, Okay, it comes from a place that I got really hurt in childhood and it's like well, does it still have the power? You've got a choice whether it has the power or not and and like that's an extreme sense, but I I'm completely.
Speaker 2:I agree exactly with what you're saying, like I I'm not sure. As we've progressed through history, we just get told that this is wrong, that's right, and instead of actually going back to the core roots of why things are actually happening or why someone's feeling the way they're feeling, it's crazy and it's not allowed to be.
Speaker 1:It's not allowed to, so they bottle it even more and it just turns into something different. Yeah. Instead of going okay, you know that's a part of you, that's okay, mate, but you know you've got a choice on whether you want to do that or not. Yeah, you know you've got a choice every second of the day. You know that's. I remember someone telling me bless her heart. She was diagnosed with autism at 64 years old.
Speaker 1:So she spent her whole life. She said she could be sitting on a train and someone like chewing next door to her. She's like I just want to fucking kill them. And she's like I've always thought that's like so wrong of me. And she says her whole life she thought she was wrong, there was something bad and broken and wrong with her. And it's like, no, that's actually a part of her nature, you know.
Speaker 1:And she's like, oh, I'm actually, I'm actually autistic, I'm actually, you know, she's got pots and she's got adhd and add and autism, she's like, but when she turned around and went, oh no, that that's actually part of me, like I've got to have that time by myself, like, but she wants to spend time with people, but that time by herself, that she's got her own little place somewhere now and she's living by herself and yeah, she's doing it tough by what people think she's doing it tough, but she loves it because then she can connect with people and then go back to the land and and real connect back into it yeah yeah one of the reasons I wanted to get you on today, so like this, is to help people out in the building industry and stuff.
Speaker 2:But it's going to help lots of people for lots of reasons, but I can't stand the way that like the words like sustainability and things are thrown around these days, because I think it all, like the stuff you're talking about is far more about sustainability than, like us trying to build a, like a house that's going to last for 50 years, the um, like we should be. I think you and I might have discussed this actually on one of our phone calls, like, for me, sustainability is well, actually, let's go back. So sustainability is not a developer coming in and clearing all the land, filling up, swap land, putting roads in, dividing it into small little parcels of land and then building boxes on it, and those boxes are designed to have somewhere between a 20 and 50-year lifespan. Like I don't care how many solar panels you throw at it, how many lithium batteries, how many water tanks, how many environmentally friendly products you think you're putting into it. Absolutely no part of that at all is sustainable.
Speaker 2:No, and so for me, look, we can't do much. Absolutely no part of that at all is sustainable. No, and so for me, look, we can't do much. Look, the population is growing and we've got to fit people in. So like developers are going to continue to build land and fill swamps up and knock forests down, like I'm not sure what we can do about that, but when it comes to the actual house, I believe there is so many what we can do about that.
Speaker 2:But when it comes to the actual house, I believe there is so many things we can do that people won't do because they, like, my big thing is with everything in our lives, like we expect everything to look after us. So we want to live in houses that keep us warm, that keep us cool, that give us light, that take all our sewage away, that we want to get jumping cars that keep us cool. We don't want to wind windows down. We want to, like you look around now like people think they're exercising because they're riding an electric bike or electric scooter down the road.
Speaker 2:Like we every, like we really at the at the end of the day, like this conversation has been awesome for me, like the end of the day, we just need to get back to our core, yeah, to who we really are and, um, like my, I hope I fucking stir things up. I hope we'd say something that goes viral. But, like to me, if people were serious, like if if individuals were serious, it doesn't doesn't have to be the governments, because if the individuals were serious, we can all get together and we can make change. If individuals were actually serious about again, I'm not into the global warming stuff and all that, but but if we were serious about helping this planet, we could do it like that.
Speaker 1:Yes, definitely.
Speaker 2:Seriously, that's how quick we'd do it. People could stop buying shit they don't need. They could make do with what they've got. They don't need the latest phone just because they've released another model we don't need. I was talking to my electrician about this the other day. Like the average house now has um, he was saying the average house he does now has over 75 lights in it. It only it only goes back 25 years when I was an apprentice.
Speaker 2:Like most houses had one baton holder light in the center of the room. Each room had one double power point. Like so there's. There's so many parts of this we could pick it apart all day. Like people think that the cost of building is getting ridiculously expensive and yet no one's talking about people's expectations. Like no one wants to live in a smaller house that only has one light in the room and one double power point. No one wants to live in a house that has more natural products. They all want the full height tiles on the wall. And you build a house these days it's got three or four toilets in it because no one wants to share or everyone's in a hurry. So like, fuck me. Like seriously, come on planet.
Speaker 1:Where's the outhouse?
Speaker 2:But, like, this stuff really frustrates me. And look, I've got colleagues and partners and things that will think that I'm crazy for saying this type of stuff, but for me it is that simple Like we build roads that the entire fucking highway has lights on it. Like, come on, they're whinging about we can't supply enough power and the power costs are getting too expensive. You drive through any town of a night time and there's fucking five million lights on with no one around. Like it's not that hard, is it really? If we were serious about helping this planet, we'd do it in a heartbeat yeah, definitely.
Speaker 1:Um, I suppose that comes back to like what our body has the capacity of doing as well. Um, my husband, he started his early years in redcliffe before we went to bundy, and, um, he has trouble seeing in the dark and I'm like, oh, just put your night eyes on, because I can see in the dark uh pitch black moon.
Speaker 1:It takes a little bit more for the eyes to adjust, but I can just. I can run through a paddock with no torch on my head and um, he's like, oh, I can't do that. I'm like, yeah, you can, you've just got to retrain your eyes.
Speaker 2:I can do the same thing. Last year I went and did a breathless expedition with Johannes down in the Snowy Mountains, so we had to. I think it was on the third or fourth day. Well, he said it was the final challenge. We ended up doing more challenges, but basically I think we were up at three or four in the morning, it was pitch black and we had to walk to the top of Mount Kosciuszko in our jocks. So whatever, it was minus four, minus six or something. Yeah.
Speaker 2:And we all. Well, some people had a bit more clothes on than others, but we all did it. Piece of piss and like he.
Speaker 2:So he said like turn your torches off, you don't need a torch no, you don't and like there was people there freaking out, but absolutely freaking out, that he wanted us to walk up this. It was a track like it wasn't even like we're crawling over rocks and things and people were freaking it and it was incredibly interesting to see that even people that were getting anxiety and freaking out in the first half hour, once they just settled into it and let their natural instincts take over, it was an incredible experience and everyone got to the top of that mountain and high five and hugging and there was people crying and like people didn't think they could do that, but it's their natural instincts.
Speaker 1:The body is a phenomenal thing. Yeah. It's like the air you breathe actually hydrates you. So if you're dehydrating, it means that you're not breathing. If you're dehydrating, it means that you're not breathing. If you feel a cold, it means you're not breathing. If you feel the heat too much, it means you're not breathing, because all feelings are an electronic pulse and our body is an electronic being that is just carrying it everywhere and and and that's all it is. It's as simple as that. And if you're not breathing, you're not exchanging that energy.
Speaker 2:Well, not breathing properly.
Speaker 1:Like most humans don't breathe properly. Yeah, or they hold their breath a lot, yeah, and it's like we've been taught to drink a lot of water and it's like we get 80% to 90% of our water from the air we breathe. Yeah. And it's like, and when we drink too much water, that's where your digestive issues come in. You know, you've diluted, you've delighted, diluted the enzymes, diluted your stomach acids and you've taken the mucus away from the digestive walls, so your filigree is actually exposed.
Speaker 2:So it's, it's quite interesting, um so, how do you, how do you learn all this? Like so you've you've been a mechanic, you've been an electrician, like you're obviously an incredibly intelligent human being experiences, life experiences in the journey of life.
Speaker 1:um, I've put myself in a wheelchair, I've had 18 broken bones. I've you know I pushed the limits. I've been to the point where I'm in so much pain I can't move, and the alternatives, like a medical system, couldn't find anything wrong. So you go all right. I found this iridologist and he'd been an iridologist for about 55 years.
Speaker 2:What is an iridologist? I can years. What is an iridologist? I can't even say it.
Speaker 1:Iridologist. Look at Sir Iris. So nowadays it's a 12-month course, but when he did it it was a five-year course and your eye tells you the whole story of where the body is and also discovering people like there's a fella. I went and saw him. I got walking out of my wheelchair again and sorry.
Speaker 2:Why were you in a wheelchair?
Speaker 1:oh yeah, I um hit a horse on a motorbike at 3 am in the morning well, I could also.
Speaker 1:I'm gonna ask you what you're doing at 3 am in the morning I was on my way to work, yeah, and I had bark busters on the motorbike and my arm got caught in the bark buster and swung around with the yeah, broke the leg right up and did some damage to myself and when I was walking again, the right leg would collapse underneath me. I had been doing it for about 12 months. My sister met this fellow in a parking lot and turned out he was a masseuse, classified as a masseuse, but so much more, and she goes, come see him. You know, if you can't find anything wrong, go come see him. And I'm like okay, I walked through his door. He turned around from his chair, looked at me, turned back around and said no, I can't help you, you've got a snapped ACL on your right leg. From me walking through the door. I leg from me walking through the door. I've been pushing the doctor. He said just push the doctors for an mri and I did and I had a fully ruptured acl.
Speaker 1:so it's like he diagnosed with just looking at me for like 10 seconds yeah and um, it just led down the okay and working with uh, not working with him, getting him to work on you, and then working on horses. I spent a lot of time breaking in horses as well as a teenager. For a lady and horses, you completely take every single emotion out. You've literally got to put them there. And when you're working with them, because everything they do, you're asking them, they bark. You've literally got to put them there. And when you're working with them, because everything they do, you're asking them, they bark. You've asked them, they rare, you've asked them.
Speaker 1:Fear, anger, happiness and joy is still the same tension in the body. And that that's when I started realizing if you're tight in the stomach, every single emotion is the exact same response. If you're extremely angry, you get tears in your eyes, you get red faced, you get really tense. If you're really really upset, same thing your stomach gets tight, your face goes red, you get tears. If you're really, really happy, same thing. You get that buzz of energy, that that tightness. You're happy, you're crying. You know it's all exact same thing. It's just what we are putting on it to make it mean something. So it's like okay, what are we actually really feeling? You know and you have a choice on what to make that feel, and it it's just like well interesting. I suppose I've just had an overactive head to find things.
Speaker 1:And it's just come along along the way. So, yeah, when you're sitting in your wheelchair and you're just like, well, what do I do? And that's when you realize there's a lot more than what humans think there is. And, um, I met one fellow once and he said well, once you reach to the point where you know you are nothing, you have everything. When you are not this human, you are not the emotions, you are not your past, you're not your present, you're not the emotions, you are not your past, you're not your present, you're not in your future. You're literally nothing. You're just an empty shell. That is where you have everything. You get to choose what's in your life. I had a walk of nothing and I said, like, my son is not my son, my husband is not my husband. You know I've been living my whole life for everybody else. So who am I? And?
Speaker 2:and that's powerful, yeah, that's. And I think, for the people listening, like you need to take note, like listen to that, because those we get sucked up, I think. I think I don't know. My opinion is females are probably a little bit worse at this, because they they do feel like they're the mum, like they have to do everything for everybody else, like you've got to do stuff for yourself, like you've got to be your own person definitely yeah yeah, and it's um, I was there for for a while and my son come to me and it was like he was on, you know, and he goes Mum, I choose you, my mum, and I'm just like, ah, I get it.
Speaker 1:Now. I'm like, well, I choose for that child to be my son, but that doesn't tie me to having to be his mother and I choose to that husband to be my husband and my partner in life because I choose it, not because I have to serve him. And it's like when we move up and we step up and we show our children that we are actually choosing, they know they grow up watching this person choosing their own life regardless of the circumstances. They can see what they can become Instead of trying to go no, I am stuck in the middle, I'm just a mum. And it's like, no, you're not just a mum, you have a choice on whether you're a mum or not.
Speaker 1:I mean, there's animals out there that give birth and then run away, you know, and there's ones that just leave the eggs there and they hatch by themselves and they get to the water. We have, like a natural instinct and it's like, oh, I classified as a bad mum. But is the turtle a bad mum for laying her eggs and having her child learn how to use his own GPS and his own self to get to the water?
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 2:You know, but we create all of our own problems, fucking. Awesome, we create all of our own problems, fucking. Ask me. My wife and I butt heads on this, but if my girls hurt themselves doing something, I'm like, well, yeah, you're going to hurt yourself sometimes. Is it still hurting now? No, well, why are you telling me, get on with your day. I'm the first one there if they need help. Get on with your day. Like, look, I'm the first one there if they need help. But like we've created this society where everybody like it's, we've lost all of our natural instincts. Like everything has become a problem. Um, like, people have to know how to deal with things, don't they like? And like those kids grow up Like if you're telling your kid that every single day, that's no, don't do that, don't do that, don't do that. That's going to hurt you, that's going to hurt you. Like they're going to go through life thinking that everything's going to hurt them and everything's going to be a problem.
Speaker 2:Exactly Like they need to figure shit out for themselves.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I suppose you could say, like most people, if they saw me with white children, they'd call me a bad mother.
Speaker 2:I've seen you with your kids. You're definitely not a bad mum.
Speaker 1:Frank, my son. I remember once the bank collapsed and he ended up in the water at two years old and I'm just like sitting there and I'm watching him and he's rolling around and I didn't react to go get him, I'm just like I'll just sit here a bit and you know what? He naturally floated to the surface and stuck his mouth and could breathe and I'm like what would have happened?
Speaker 1:if I went out and rescued him, you know, and it's like no, he actually saved himself. And I suppose it's not about saving people, it's about allowing them to experience life, to actually know that they can actually save themselves yeah, yeah, I think it's.
Speaker 2:It's. It's true, our entire lives now. Like I talk about it at work, with scaffolding and things like when I was an apprentice and started my career. Like you walked around on the three-story building on the 70 mil wide top plate and you stood the trusses up and, like you, if you fell it was going to fucking hurt or you probably wouldn't show up for work the next day. And now it's just expected.
Speaker 2:There is handrails on everything, so people aren't thinking about their surroundings and being aware of what's going on because they just think Disconnecting. So, yeah, it's a funny world, isn't it? We're all just protected from everything going on because they just think connecting. So, yeah, it's, it's a funny world, isn't it? Like we're all just we're protected from everything and, um, like we, it's, it's a good. Like we need to get out and find ourselves. Don't we find ourselves, use our natural instincts and be the people that we, we are meant to be disconnect to reconnect, yeah yeah, well, that's what we'll be doing at our property, but um, look so, emma, how can people work with you?
Speaker 1:find you um like um, so we've got a website kamalaregencomau. Um, yeah, that's pretty much our launch page there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, um, it tells our story a little bit as well in there and where Derek and I have come from in regards to our farming sites. Like, derek's first job was milking cows. Yeah, yeah, I remember, um, yeah, so he went from milking cows and then, of course, um 2000, come in for the regulatory system with the dairy industry and he had to venture out from there. But, yeah, we're both pretty passionate about farming and the land and actually synchronising the whole system.
Speaker 2:Yeah, just quickly, like before we wrap this up, like you were telling me before we got on here. Like you have a goal, do you mind sharing your goal? You have a goal, do you mind sharing your goal?
Speaker 1:Yes, my goal. So my goal is we've also partnered with another business as well, but if we can regenerate and rehydrate the freshwater lands which is also now in the soil 100 kilometres on the east coast of Australia and the west coast of Australia and inland 100 kilometers we have the opportunity to reduce the temperature by 10 degrees in Australia, in the center. So that's how big we have an impact on the environment around us. And, like another, one of my dreams is, of course, recovering deserts, and not by myself, but it's not one person that's going to do it. It's going to take millions and it's just changing perspectives of farming.
Speaker 1:At the core of it, it's not about control and domination. It's actually about working with and you give 10% to the land and work with it, and it gives you 100 to 150, like that. That is the goal. And um, our business venture partner, agri-ventures, and um, yeah, their whole goal is to is is the same, like our alignment with it. It's about regenerating land and building ecosystems, and Ginny's vision is helping farmers with that, as well as helping farmers into land with the money flows. And it's also about, you know, the opportunity that everyone can have a chance at owning farming land as well.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and it's a good dream Like how good is it to have your own land and produce your own food or collaborate with other people and share animals and food and that's where we're heading right now.
Speaker 1:Actually, there's been a call this week for the investment into that, actually because we've got a portfolio of properties right now and the goal is $10 million at the moment to support the portfolio. So there's oh I've got to count one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine properties in there, ranging from anywhere from 78 acres up to 10,500 acres, and it's just about reconnecting people back to nature and land and having the opportunity to actually have a place to do that as well. Opportunity to actually have a place to do that as well, yeah, whether it be visit or whether there's a spot you want to call land as your home, um, or just invest, and that's that's the big goal too yeah, no, it's incredible vision and, look, I I really hope you achieve it.
Speaker 2:I think the um, I hope that a lot of people listen to this podcast and realize how especially ones in my industry, builders and traders and things like we have a huge responsibility to help this planet out and we have a lot of opportunity. Like we build houses on land. We have a lot of opportunity with the products and materials we get to use and all that we choose to build those houses with. Yeah, and then yeah, I know a lot of people in my industry do have goals of owning land, so hopefully they reach out to people like yourselves and together we can all make a difference. Because imagine achieving that when you like I'm going to put it out there like when you reach that goal that you can rejuvenate 100 kilometres of land inland on the east and west coast and you reduce the temperature in the middle of Australia by 10 degrees like that's just incredible yeah, um, we can all make a difference yeah, now look.
Speaker 2:Thanks very much for coming on, really appreciate your time um, love you sharing your story and, yeah, I really can't wait to see um what we can do together in the future.
Speaker 1:Thank you. Thank you for having me.
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