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The Solution to Women's Needs on a Jobsite - I've Never Considered This.
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I've been able to manage doing everything. I can make ovens and be washing machines on my own. It's not about how you do it, it's just about getting it done. G'day guys.
Speaker 2:Welcome back to another episode of A Level Up. We've got another cracking episode for you today. This one's a little bit of an unexpected one. We didn't think we were going to be able to add it, and now we're sort of throwing it at the last minute. And I'm super pumped about it because this lady is doing great things in the construction industry and I'm really keen to have a talk about her journey and definitely her future. So a big warm welcome to Jase. How are you?
Speaker 1:Yeah, good to have you. How are you doing?
Speaker 2:Excellent. So, female Sparky, how are?
Speaker 1:you? Yeah, good to be here. How are you doing? Excellent, so female Sparky.
Speaker 2:Yep, female Sparky. Eight years, nearly nine years, you know. So yeah, I've been a little while. That's awesome. I'm always keen to. I'm really intrigued how females get into the industry, because I think there's a lot of potential for females in the industry. So what's your background? What made you want to be a trader?
Speaker 1:um, my dad is actually a sound and vision engineer. Um, so you know, all my life I grew up so I've been like billy twill was working at festivals and all these really cool places. So I've always had that, I guess, eager to get out of school, sort of like getting out of school somewhere I don't get where it is. And then, as I got a little bit older, I sort of learned what I wanted to do and always wanted to be an electrician, sort of. I knew that's what I wanted to do. And then graduated school didn't really have any options to do the like the work experience that you get these days. Year 10, year 12, yeah, year 10 you get work experience. Now, uh, when did you finish? Oh, I finished year 10, yeah, so I, from year 11, 12 to 13, I kept applying for apprenticeships. Didn't get anything, um, no guide to tell me where to go or how to get looked at. And then it just so happened Degree C one year, while hiring females under a grant. That the government's offering Is that an electoral government.
Speaker 1:Yeah, sorry, yeah, degree C is an electoral company. That's in an other week, hasn't it? Yeah, yeah, and they. There was a government grant to hire females to try and build more women in their trade industry, and yeah, I was just very lucky that I got it, which is sad to say.
Speaker 2:I think that's how I got in, but, um, yeah, I got there because at the end of the day, I don't know, like if you want to do something, you get in you. You know it can happen. But yeah, I agree, it's not. I don't think it's right that they've got to put incentives in place to employ them. It's like you've got a new job and you're passionate about something Like have a go.
Speaker 1:Oh, I was extremely passionate and nowadays you'd000 to do the course. But if I had known that, I would have done the course and I wouldn't have waited three years to get in. Yeah, so I didn't get it.
Speaker 2:So how did you go, like after school, were there friends and things Like. Did you feel, was there any approach? That had not been a trade, because people around you were going to do other things, or were you expected to do something else?
Speaker 1:Not really. I grew up in the middle of nowhere. I had friends in school but it was always working on the cars at home or going to see by the weekend with mum and dad, or going to see by the weekend with my own dad or going to festivals with dad and I'll always sort of brought up to pick again busy. So I knew it's what I wanted to do. All my friends sort of thought, oh yeah, whatever shots sort of work, my cars and things all the weekend.
Speaker 2:It's not going to be a business, you're not going to get anywhere with it, but I knew it would fall over to do so yeah, oh, that's awesome because it it's definitely a little bit left in, like most emails take traditional route, or rather you know with the university or something so. So how did you found it? Like you've obviously finished your time, you've worked your way into the current business area yeah, um, oh, I love it.
Speaker 1:Oh, it's honestly, I can't imagine myself doing anything else. I have sort of got just a lot of parts of my um trade. Well, maybe this is it for me. You're making a safe. What's happening at work? You're like, maybe, maybe I'm doing the wrong thing, maybe I should have went and done eight-up or hairdressing or something. But I just found my route back and, yeah, I'm so grateful that I did, because now I'm here and I wouldn't go back ever. I've worked so hard to get here.
Speaker 1:I've been kicked down so many times by even applying for jobs. When I qualified my apprenticeship, I was made redundant during COVID and I was like, listen, I'm never going to get a job again. The great thing about my job was I only go and I did apply for so many jobs. That's a slap. That's a slap. Yeah, and they'll look at me and I don't think it it was because I was a female. I think it was just, I didn't have the experience that they were looking for, but being a female, I thought in my head and, um, yeah, then I was very lucky, I got picked up by um Olin and, yeah, pretty much, that was four years ago. So who's behind me now? Of course, that one Yep.
Speaker 2:And you were just saying that there's now a lead-up of female apprentices in the study you're working on.
Speaker 1:Yep. So we have two female apprentices, second year and third year, and yeah, it's been awesome being able to mentor them. And sometimes they actually look up to me, for if something's happened on job sites where I was sort of made feel uncomfortable, they come to me and say, oh, this happened. I tried my best to guide them in the right way, but I think the best way I learned from that happening was just to deal with it. And I don't know, I was put under pressure by men saying bad comments. You just have to deal with it. It's't know, I was put under pressure by men saying bad prominence. You just have to deal with it. I know it's not the right way to do it, but if it doesn't get said to, how are you going to learn and how are they going to learn?
Speaker 2:Yeah, because the industry is very old, absolutely broke. I know it's full of males. Yeah, pips, the old days were too too bad. It's a job site like you deal with it. Yeah, that's doesn't cover it anymore. So if you do have a female on site, then we'll know you've been able to.
Speaker 1:Probably needs to be looked at a little bit yeah, yeah, oh, and so far, I think the really hard thing for me is I don't want to put them in a situation that makes them feel uncomfortable, so I have to hold back from the jobs I'm giving them on that job. But it shouldn't be like that, and I also don't want to put my foot in it and then have to go and say to that person who said the wrong thing and then get myself in trouble. You know what I mean. It's a hard one, having held everyone under you and seeing them go through everything that you've been through and just trying to be the mentor that they need to get through it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so you're like running projects now in charge of other people.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yep, so I'm currently running a few jobs for all I'm now, so just the house of Kyle, which was another builder, so that was a two-year project. We've sort of been Is that the villa. Yeah, the villa. Oh you did, it looks great. Yeah, it's awesome. So that was our project. And then I've had a number of apprentices working at other meal app jobs. I think we've got about six apprentices. Yeah, they all had a garden.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, you're actually pretty proud. Oh yeah, you've never had a few challenges Like it sounds to me, like mine says, they've had their journey, like you'd said. You know Like, is that something you'd work on, or would it? Yeah, I don't need to skateboard, you'll throw whatever it takes um, every day it's different.
Speaker 1:I have a day where I wake up, like this morning for instance, I woke up with the worst anxiety ever. I knew I was going to a job and I've been up for a while, me up to start, and I just I don't know what. I just had the worst anxiety. All that it was go to bed. I just did not want to go to work.
Speaker 1:And I think having some of work under you is another pressure. And then you've got to make sure you're doing the right thing, like on the job, because it was a commercial job site. So, um, and there's people, public, coming around and you're always being watched. So I think, having that pressure of being a female, you're always being watched, everyone is looking for a way to kick you down. I don't know why, but so I think in my head you've always got that pressure. Every day is different, every job is different. If you're at a house with someone watching you, you've got to try and do the right thing. If you're at a house on your roller, and you still are trying to do that right thing, but you've got to put less pressure, so, um, I guess not start that yeah, well, why is that?
Speaker 2:it's massive like it does. It holds most of its back. Yeah, those little voices in your head that are telling you lies that you don't want to hear.
Speaker 1:Yeah, make sure you do the right thing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and every day can be a challenge. I say it all the time. I fight my demons every day. You've got to get out of your cupboard today and just keep pushing yourself, because it's very easy to have a day off or stay in bed or make an excuse for something.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and that's the thing. It's so easy to make an excuse. It's not hard just to text the boss and say, oh, sorry, I'm sick, but I heard a quarter-legged say no, you cannot come to work yeah no, sorry, no, you've got to come to work.
Speaker 1:It's like, although there are days where I just want to message dave and say sorry, I'm just so sick I can't come to work, but I'm actually honest with him a lot of the time he's a really great boss to us. So if we're having a bad day, check in and he'll say how are you going? So throughout my whole four years of being with Dave, there's been days where I'm just like I'm sorry, I'm not feeling up to it. I've had a really rough night, had a rough day, whatever, and he's so understanding. He's just like yep, I've picked a hard job off you or whatever. I'll give you something easy where you don't stress.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's really good to have that support. Yeah, awesome.
Speaker 2:It's easy if you're at your own business. No, look, as an employee, it's hard like busy schedule, your business right now, having a certain amount of people outside doing a certain amount of work, and, uh, something I've definitely like to deal with. It's just, it is what it is. You can't. You can't change it, you just go. Well, you have more fat in your schedule, so there is a bit of tolerance for that type of stuff. Yeah, because, yeah, life's so fast these days. I grew up dealing with a lot of stuff and you don't know what people have got going on in their own family life or home life. What's your goal? Do you dream of having your own electrical business?
Speaker 1:I do too, but do you have your own electrical business? I do too. Actually, my biggest goal was to own a business in the electrical industry and I think now there's so many electrical businesses that are just battling away and what may be a lawyer of a pretty well-known company in Launceston. I'm seeing the stress that my boss and a lot of my friends who own their own businesses are currently going through, and I don't want to be. I guess. I don't think I want that stress for me. I've always wanted my own baby and I want a family. I'm sort of getting to that age now where I don't want that stress on my relationship by starting a company in this current climate. I guess you'd say yeah please.
Speaker 2:It's only stress all the time. It's only stressful. If you make it stressful, I'll make sure you get it stressful, and it's stressful completely when I'm upset because of me. I didn't do any self-improvement, didn't do any education. I was a great tiffy, great builder, but I didn't have a right to do this.
Speaker 2:And from what I've seen from most trades and people in our industry is exactly that. They're very good, they craft, yeah, but the business, I think, is really lacking, yeah, and that's where the stress comes in. You lose the passion, yeah, and like, become very difficult. So and I don't know if I'm pointing it out to you, because I think there's a lot of very talented trades out there that push their dream to the side working for themselves because of the stress and the shit they see their boss going through. But it's not like that. If you spend time adding energy on yourself and you do some business courses, you know, find mentors, you work on the business side of things, obviously you can have the kids, you can have a family and it can still run a great bit yeah, no, I don't give a hell.
Speaker 1:It's definitely on the cards maybe one day. But yeah, like you said, I want to learn by craft first. So I think I've still got so long sorry, I've still got so far to go to learn it. I'm learning every day and I know, being in business, I'd learn more and I'd be able to build myself more. But, as I spoke about earlier, I am sort of a side hustle, so I'd like to get that off the ground first and be better at having the electricity and learning my craft before I get obstitable. So I'll focus on that side of things more, but yeah, every Monday.
Speaker 2:You'll get there. Yeah, I believe in you. You're right. Stop saying sorry. Don't say sorry. Don't say sorry. No, you've got to stop that. I did it. It's okay. Everyone gets there and makes mistakes, Don't worry about it. All right? Well, I'm going to jump right forward now, because we know we've probably known that you've done your apprenticeship, you're a spark and you're very good at what you do. I wouldn't know more about this side hustle because I saw you posted a post on Instagram the other day and I was like to me. That tells me a lot about you. Like you're driven. You've obviously come in the industry. You've seen an opportunity or it's come from the lessons you've learned and the things you've had to deal with and you're actually doing something better. Do you want to tell us what it is? I do like the lessons you've learned and the things you've had to deal with and you're actually doing something better, right?
Speaker 1:Do you want to tell us what it is? I do so. The business is called the Go Company and basically it came from myself and my experiences coming into the trade having a lack of access to sanitary products and toilets. Well, there is none. So I don't think I've ever seen a sanitary bin on a job site before in eight years. And they're coming having white people apprentices come on and they may not have access to toilet paper or wipes or hand sanitizers or any kind of sanitary items, items. It's been a really big eye opener for me that it is a problem.
Speaker 1:Um, so I messaged one of my friends who's also a female electrician and I said to her I was like we should make some packs for our business, for our companies that we work for. Um, so let's make some packs. We have pads, tampons, more sanitiser, whatever we can get in them, social bags, just something Put in the vans and give our apprentices their dignity back when they get into the vans. With the men I used to when I was an apprentice, I'd jump in with a mail and you'd have your pack that you carried all your vans in. Sometimes you'd forget it and you'd get like your pack that you carried or your van. Sometimes you'd forget it and you'd get to a job site and you've got nothing with you and, yeah, that's where all your dignity just flushes down the toilet. That's not in the van. So, yeah, it's so. The business is portable sanitary packs and they're designed to supply a female with everything that they possibly need on a job site or on the go.
Speaker 2:It's fantastic. I got two young girls, 10 and 13. It's given me good stuff to me, that someone like you in the industry, like I don't know they might get into the industry so they can have access to this sort of stuff. It's pretty cool Because, let's face it, I avoid going to all the time job sites. I can't afford a thing like that. Yeah, sorry, and it's something as simple as that. It really frustrates me that people can't use a sight saw and treat it like it's their toilet. This is a sight saw. Why do you have to keep?
Speaker 1:it messy. I would hate to see their toilets. What if they're like?
Speaker 2:Well, we'd hate to think that they are, but they go home with their family. It's just something so simple that, yeah, it should be, I guess, stored up a lot better.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and it's not even just for us, it's for men as well. Like you, guys don't want us going onto your site and using your toilet and leaving our sanitary items just hanging around in the bins Sorry, in the toilets. There's no way to dispose of it. In the toilet, we're not allowed to flush them, we're not allowed to put them in a portable hose, because the chemicals are breaking down, so we literally just have to pop it and walk out with it and put it in the nearest bin, and sometimes there's no need to be in it, so you're left stuffing in your car or try to dispose of it later.
Speaker 2:Oh, I'll put my head in a book.
Speaker 1:I've not saw that. No one has. I didn't even think of it. We spoke to a lot of them leading up to the launch. We haven't launched yet, but it is coming up. It is there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the peptides are making that for a little while. By the time it's coming out you'll be launched. But I hope you got lots of stuff because we got lots of listeners, so I put that at you too.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, this is awesome. I'm really glad to be able to talk about it with you, especially because a lot to our listeners. I just want to get this out there For as many women and as many men business actors, anyone that can make a difference. I don't want you to prevent your business from being put on a female because you can't provide a proper way of female disclosing of their sanitary items by having this on your job sites and now opening another world to having where to come and apply for jobs with you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so is your goal that maybe businesses like Trishong but most like Trishong don't have that they do drop around. It almost retails as standard as a first aid kit. You sign the first aid kit and there's one of your go-parts.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we want to make it a standard in every single van work van, government, van, ambulances, firemen, police officers, wherever we can get them. If you're working out in the middle of a field in a truck traffic controls, they're out there all day. I field in a truck traffic controllers, they're out there all day. They've got a portable toilet. What happens to the women? There's so many women traffic controllers now I bet you've always ever thought about what they're doing, standing there 12 hours a day in the hot sun when they get there.
Speaker 2:Look, it's not something that's just like a one-off thing, like every, what is it like? 28 days you've got to be dealing with it.
Speaker 1:Yes, yes, One week every month. You've got to think about it. So it's not just a yeah, once-you-get thing.
Speaker 2:It's like I feel bad because I've got this book that I've been meaning to read. My girls are growing up. I should know more about it by now. I was listening to it. My girls are growing up and I should know more about it by now because it's starting to get to that stage. I'm trying to do a podcast, so I was listening to it. There's a lady that has written a book called Flow. It talks about females and how it works and what you have to deal with On this podcast. I was listening to it. The guy had the lady on there with the written book and how it works and what you have to deal with On this podcast. I was listening to the guy the lady on there with the written book, and he was saying, like every father should read this book, yeah, and not just to help you out with your kids, but to help you out with your relationship with your partner, yeah, yeah. So I need to pull my finger down.
Speaker 1:Make sure I read it Well, and that's another part of our business is we.
Speaker 1:That's a great book and I recommend reading it and any male out there should read it if they've got access to it. But I think having this business as well is giving women a voice and men a voice, because I don't know how uncomfortable a lot of men get when they're talking about it. I know how uncomfortable I used to get get when they're talking about it. I know how uncomfortable I used to get, but I used to talk about it and so an apprentice be able to go to their mailbox and say this is an issue, how can we fix it? They're not going to do it. They're just going to sit in their little box and keep quiet and the nail's not going to know. Unless they've read that book, they're not going to know. Or they've read that book, they're not going to know, or they've got kids. So we want to be able to be that voice for female apprentices or females everywhere. We want to get that conversation going with business owners or anyone, just anyone we can get out to.
Speaker 2:Yeah, well, I guess it's not anything about it Like it's a funny subject Like I. Certainly didn's not, when you think about it. It's a funny subject Like I'm. We certainly didn't have a conversation. It's true, it's never like a construction podcast. We're talking about periods, but I get out of control of that. Like I said, I've got two girls, yeah, and my oldest wife has never made me. This has happened, yeah, in the last sort of 12 months, and so her and my wife. He comes up all the time, but we'll be down here like she's it's happening. Yeah, she needs whatever she needs you don't, you just shut up.
Speaker 1:Even women don't want to talk about it. Like I get uncomfortable talking to men about it, but now it's like I can't be uncomfortable because I am now that voice that people are going to rely on. So it gets easier the more you talk about it.
Speaker 2:Well, that's nice, it's part of the UI. Yeah, it's not going anywhere. It's something I've been sort of consciously focusing on. I definitely don't want my daughters to feel uncomfortable, even if my wife wasn't home or whatever, to feel like, hey, they can't come and talk to Dad, they won't understand or whatever. I know, maybe it's because I've got two girls. That's something I'm starting to sort of think more about, but I do see it being a very touchy subject on job sites. It's just something that, like I said, I honestly have never, ever, thought for one second about a female, happy, middle, disposable. It was disclosed on the website.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I guess it's not really something that any male would ever have to think about or should think about, because we haven't told you how are you going to know? You don't go through it, so you're not going to know unless someone tells you. And I guess now we just want to get as loud as we can make sure everyone knows that. We just want something to put it. It's something so simple.
Speaker 2:yeah, yeah well it is when you put it like that yeah, yeah, uh, look, I'll tell you, I think it's so, so fantastic to see people that have developed things from it necessity. So you've been in the business now for eight years. So you've been dealing with this for what? Seven years until you started. I'm assuming. It's taken you 12 months to develop it. Yeah, yeah, so you must be pretty proud.
Speaker 1:Oh, super proud, yeah, and the thought of it being just such a solid year within our businesses and then being able to now hopefully like share it with the whole of Australia if we can get it that far, or even the world, I'd love to get it worldwide. I know in the UK it's a standard now with job sites. They have to have way up to so-and-so's sanctuary items and I'm pretty sure they can police it now. So I think it's a bit weird code.
Speaker 2:Like we have to talk about what your product, oh yeah.
Speaker 1:No, no secrets. Have you tried it, liked it and all that stuff? Yeah, everything's tried and wrong.
Speaker 2:Well, I'd like to think I'm not going to lose any listeners, because this is a topic that really needs to start being discussed on job sites, because people are getting more and more into our industry. But how is your product mis-focusing on this? As in how about sorry, so if you can't dispose of it in the site software, it's part of your package, I think set disposable bag.
Speaker 1:Oh sorry. Yeah, so there's a black disposable bag that comes in the pack, so it's just more. So it's more discreet to be able to dispose of it. Yeah, well, obviously you do have to if there's no toilet um satchel bin or no bins on site. It's a little bit more hygienic way of exposing them. But yeah, it's just stuffing in your pocket. It's not all wrapping into, well, paper kind of thing it's. Yeah, we won't be able to give women a bit more dignity to walk out with something and, um, yeah, and they are by the ground of the bag, so if they were to go in the bin, we're just adding another layer of my help with environment.
Speaker 2:Yeah, oh, look at all the only thing we're talking about. It all makes so much sense. Almost I do feel bad that it's not something that I've considered. But yeah, we'll actually paint it with you. Think it might have a pose females, so it did. So you can turn your side, I can get some up to Queensland. Yeah, no, look, we'll help you out, but we'll hopefully watching this. Every builder and craving listen to this podcast reach out to you. How do they get in touch with you? How do they buy this thing?
Speaker 1:So we have a website which we'll launch next week. We do have a website online. You can go and see all the details. So the website is wwwinfo at thegocompanycomau. So we have that. And then we have an Instagram as well, which is just thegocompany.
Speaker 2:You can DM us make sure to go check. Have you got a business partner?
Speaker 1:yes, my business partner is Logan Barnett.
Speaker 2:She's also a female make sure to go check out. Jasmine and Logan support lovely business. It's definitely something that's going to get more and more colored on every job site we'll have to get you, and more colored on every job site We'll have to get you in touch with Shades of May. We're in the industry. Have you seen our label? I've never seen that. Awesome Deep structure. Yeah, awesome, we're in the construction. So she's had a podcast with us a little while ago. Yeah, yeah, we'll have to pass on our email address to you. Yeah, sorry, she's done big things for females in the industry. Yeah, she'll actually be very, very interested. Yeah, that'd be awesome In what you're doing. Yeah, so maybe you won't be as smart as my son. Maybe you'll be out of the face of sales. The on-mail video player.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's the scariest thing, I think. My business partner. She wants to get off the tools completely, so I'm not ready yet. She'll be the first to get off the tools, but I'm going to try and sell as often as I can.
Speaker 1:My partner and I will try for a family soon, so that will be the biggest time I step away from the tools and focus on the business and then I'll hopefully come back on the tools up for that yeah because I do love my job and I can't imagine not doing it, and I just want to be fair and make everything better I'm going to give you a little bit more advice, although it's it's worked incredibly well for myself.
Speaker 2:But I would imagine that your sales would be huge if people see that you are the person like business card, because you are the trader that was on site dealing with this. I'm sure you have Instagram stuff, but I've got a show of you doing video. You're on site talking about it. We have yeah.
Speaker 1:But we have started posting a little bit. So yeah, we're working on it. It's a slow process because people buy from people.
Speaker 2:So if people see, like, if other builders trade, if they see you and your and the story, yeah, and what and you talk about what you've had to do with the last seven years and why this has come about, like data, the story is what sells. Yeah, so if you step away from the industry, that story it's sort of like it's still there. That's still where it started, yeah. But yeah, keeping one foot in the door and still being able to do those posts and being on site like it's like a big part of the groundwork business.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and we always want to be one set head of this as well. Something might change. So if we're not working in the job site, we're not going to know, so it'd be nice to still have that. Yeah, like you said, foot in the door and know what's going on?
Speaker 2:Yeah Well, that was a lot of big, a lot of female traders on the pencil out there at Huge Bollocks.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm sure there are. I haven't got that buddy up.
Speaker 2:I was going to say that Bye. Yeah, I like what they're doing, but some of the information that they're putting out there is not correct and they wouldn't have that following if they didn't have to. It's an asset.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but that's the reality. It's shaming us. Yeah, it's shaming the ones who actually just care about their job and making. Well, teaching people the career of what you're doing, yeah, it's hard to see.
Speaker 2:No, I think, look, I think, genuine followers. Yeah, it's hard to say, oh, look, I think, look, I think jenny mcfarlane will see past it. Yeah, like it's if they they see who you are and what you're doing. It's like it's degrading to women think or be in a situation where they feel like they've got to get their tits and ass out to be able to get forward. So I can. Yeah, all right, look, I don't know what you do, I don't think it's a success, but really appreciate your time coming on here today. Before we wrap it up, for any of the young females out there that are possibly at that age with a thing about their career path and what they're going to do, have you got any advice for them?
Speaker 1:honestly, just do it. Whatever you do, there's always someone there to help you and guide you in the right direction, and if you think there's not, you're in the wrong area. If you have a passion, if you want to get on the tour and try something out work experience so many businesses looking at work experience they say it's just like all our business asks them, well, they just say no, then just try somewhere. So don't give up. Yeah, don't give up. If you, if you want to do something, just do it and work harder yeah, and what about if they?
Speaker 2:what if they're getting pushback from family or friends or that sort of thing? Just keep pushing just keep pushing.
Speaker 1:If it's what you want to do. You can't listen anymore. Yeah, I, I have a lot of pushback from most of businesses, so you didn't think that I had the I guess skills to do it and I just kept trying. I tried every other business. I'm pretty lucky I've had support from my family, but if you haven't got the support from your family, you'll get it somewhere else. So just keep searching. You'll get it from a good business. I've got the best employer and employees that I work with now and I wouldn't have it any other way, and that's taken me working at three different places to get here. So just keep going.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Businesses just need to adapt a bit. There's always going to be, I feel there's always going to be. Let's face it females and males are very different, Especially when it comes to straight from being. Well, maybe not, there's a lot of big muscles on Instagram, but that's just about adapting, isn't it? Because there will be things that you can't do that maybe one of the other males in the business can't do it. It's just working with the elder and figuring out who's that sort of wife and all that type of stuff. So there's really no reason to not have more females in the industry.
Speaker 1:There's no excuse, and if business has excuses for not putting women on, you're not strong enough, then you're pushing your men through hard facades. It's day and age. What is it? Two people live things like that, but, like I've been able to manage doing everything. I can lift ovens and be washing rations on my own. It's not about how you do it, it's just about getting it done. And if no one watches how I do work, I'm happy I get it in there.
Speaker 2:Oh look, really I'm so glad that we were able to get you on, because it looked for a little while there like it wasn't going to happen, but I really appreciate it. Well, massive shout out to Sean Tosy Builders' mum. They've been good mates. Yeah, thanks Sean. Yeah, he was well pushing yesterday. He's like I'll get her on there.
Speaker 1:That's it. He rang me as soon as he left.
Speaker 2:Look, I think it's been a great chat. I love what you're doing. I hope that there's a lot of young females, or even older females out there that listen to this and who knows what, a career change or anything about getting into the industry. And for, I guess, employers out there listening to this, it's up to us to adapt our businesses and, I guess, educate our tenants and, I guess, educate our teenagers and making sure our teenagers make females feel comfortable when they come to work for us. And yeah, lastly, congratulations on the business. I really, really hope or I don't hope, I know it's going to go well for you, so keep doing what you're doing.
Speaker 1:Thanks, Sarah. Thank you for giving me the opportunity to talk about it.
Speaker 2:No, it's not a tactical thing. My girl, camille's going to listen to this oh it's I Want a Job. It is a couple of things for us to talk about, but it's something that definitely needs to be spoken about. Thing for Blase to talk about, but it's something that definitely needs to be spoken about. Hopefully this podcast has broken some of those old-fashioned bloody thoughts. I guess I'm sorry if it hasn't.
Speaker 1:Sorry if it's made you feel uncomfortable.
Speaker 2:We just lost half our listeners. Yes, that's all good If anybody listens from talking that stuff. It's all that listeners you don't want? Yeah, yeah, no, keep that one down and look for everyone out there that's listening. Make sure you go and check out all the contracting. Jess, do you want to give away a person list?
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, that's Sparky, chick.
Speaker 2:That's Sparky Chick and the GoPack.
Speaker 1:The.
Speaker 2:Go company. The Go company that's what it is on Instagram.
Speaker 1:Yeah yeah, so Instagram is actually. I think it wouldn't be a girls-only company, but if you search the Go company, it does.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'll try to check it out. We'll put ladies stuff for me to send this out. But look, everybody thanks for listening. Really appreciate your time like, follow, subscribe, share all of those things. It doesn't cost you a cent but it helps us get this information and knowledge out to more and more people. So really appreciate your support and we'll see you on the next one.
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